Below Deck Down Under S4E8: Ellie SNAPS Over Ben’s Pet Names — Captain Jason Steps In! | AD

I do think though Mike forgets that he’s working and he’s not on holiday himself.
>> Yeah, totally.
That’s interesting you say that because when we talk about I think it’s the after show um Captain Dreamboat has a good point about this. Okay.
[music] Hi, welcome to Above Deck, a blow deck breakdown podcast. I’m Sarah Goldman, a photographer living in Charleston, South Carolina. With me is my college roommate and co-host, Kelly.
Hi, I’m Kelly Busby, an executive assistant and former radio host coming to you from my home studio in Columbus, Ohio. Together, Sarah and I hosted the Socks Sandals radio show on WFAL in Bowling Green, Ohio. And we are back again this week to discuss Below Deck and our love of all things Bravo. Today we’ll be discussing Below Deck Down Under season 4, episode 8, Call Me by My Name. [laughter] Sorry.
Here’s your recap. A high stakes 4 days charter gets off to a rocky start when Jenna’s cabin mistake puts the interior team under scrutiny. As pressure mounts in the galley, a sharp comment from Chef Ben pushes Ellie past her limits and forces Captain Jason to step in and restore order midservice. Sarah, how many shackles? I actually gave it nine.
It had a little bit of everything. fun, fights, flirting, blowups, mess ups, swimming, a like a big injury was pretty good.
>> This show had everything.
>> Everything.
>> Okay, so the show picks up on the van ride back to the boat after the night out and Jenna concludes this Eddie speech. Um, basically the cliff notes are, “You blew it. You blew it with me.” She said, “You burnt your bridges with me.” So Jenna, I have a favor, a question to ask. I would like to take some argument lessons from you, please, because you kept your cool. You stated facts and you didn’t start crying, which are all things that I have problems with. And >> and all things that I cannot do sober, let alone after a few beers. So, how did you do that? And >> how did you have those facts top of mind when the conversation started? Because it was absolutely beautiful. Like, you were just >> Yeah, she did great.
>> Amazing.
>> Yeah, >> I would like to take classes.
I’m sure she would. She’d be up for that. Joah invites Daisy for a glass of wine and she’s already turning into bed and she says, “You know, next time it’s time for bed.” >> He kissed her hand getting out of the car.
>> I missed that. That’s >> cute.
>> Wow.
>> Um I think Eddie might have thought that the hot tub would just like magically heat itself, right?
>> Isn’t there a switch or something? Like don’t they have It’s a thing, right?
kept checking it and he’s like, “Ah, still cold.” I’m like, “Well, you got to turn it on.” >> The way he like flung his body onto the side of the hot tub. That looked so painful.
>> Yeah, it did.
>> Jenna is getting to know Ben and he says, you know, when he was younger, he was quite clever. Don’t you think he was like a major handful?
>> Oh, >> and he still is.
>> Those poor teachers. Like [laughter] it sounds like Eddie is still into Jenna and Ben plans to not be part of a love triangle this season. So he’s kind of bowing out. Um >> Okay.
>> What are your thoughts about Ellie’s chat with Jah and like Ben’s use of pet names in general?
>> So said it’s, you know, it’s a cultural difference and I’m not really sure that I think it is a matter of a cult cultural difference.
>> Mhm. That’s just I mean I agree with Ellie that it’s not appropriate for the workplace. That >> I’m not sure Ben understands that it’s demeaning toward women. And to be fair, I’m not sure that understands that either. It’s just not >> right.
>> Some you know says he gets called love or boooo, which honestly that’s kind of my favorite one. I think that’s funny.
Like I just hear boo boo, you know. I don’t know.
>> Yeah, it’s cute.
>> Um and it is true. He is called those names by Ben, but it’s rare. And Ellie is getting it out of every other sentence, out of Ben’s mouth constantly.
>> I do feel like in Ben’s case though, it is a term of endearment. Like he >> I maybe it is condescending, but I don’t think he’s trying to be that way. Like he’s always been like this on every season and he’s calling everybody these names and I think it’s sweet. However, if he was like some old creeper, you wouldn’t we I wouldn’t feel this way. I’d be like, “Ew.” Do you think maybe Ellie feels that way, but he might be an old creeper to [laughter] her?
>> I mean, >> but still like in the workplace.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I I wouldn’t love it, I guess, if it were my co-workers, but I don’t know. I give Ben a lot of grace because of just like he’s so charming. I really do. And I I’m aware of it.
>> So, >> but I I do think, you know, Joelle says you need to talk to him.
>> Yeah.
>> And I agree. She needs to let him know like, dude, I don’t like this >> before before it gets out of hand. Which it’s about to.
>> Okay. So, the next day, Ben goes for a morning swim.
>> I get the problems with this, but again, I loved it. I thought I thought the visuals were beautiful.
>> Oh, the visuals are great. him floating there like >> like he was a raft.
>> Now, this was the day he said like she was going to get to come in late and Right. [laughter] >> Yes. And the kitchen was still a mess >> and guests were coming on, but he needed to wake up.
>> Sarah, [laughter] >> I thought it was really funny. I’m sure the um the camera people were like, “This is gonna be great.” Okay, [laughter] so the new oven arrives and Alysia decides to put a bow on it for Ben and her and Captain Dreambo are standing there like proud parents like on Christmas.
>> Now, there have been several memes made with this little freeze frame. None that I thought were particularly clever, though, so I don’t know. Maybe I’ll throw my uh my hand in the ring at trying something.
>> Okay.
>> I’m grateful he’s got an oven for this group.
>> What’s that? I’m grateful he’s got an oven now for this group.
>> Okay, we have a preference sheet meeting. We have Clay and Mark from Tampa and it’s a retail millionaire.
[laughter] It’s a retail millionaire love story.
Just a classic tale. Um they are very cute, I have to say. Um it’s going to be a 4-day charter >> which the cruise >> long time.
>> Yeah. Uh, they want to have a vow renewal, which Jason will be officiating. Officiating.
Um, Daisy chats to Ben about how hard Ellie is working and like him taking so many breaks. And >> yeah, >> this is maybe an unpopular opinion, but Ben is so much nicer and is trying so much harder to get along with people than in previous seasons we’ve seen him on.
>> I I agree. I mean, it it his temper is not he his temper has come down. Mhm.
>> this this season. I just don’t think like he’s landed yet. Like I don’t I don’t >> Yeah, I see.
>> I don’t know. I don’t know. It I know it is obvious he is trying.
>> Ben sits down with Ellie and he apologizes for abandoning her to clean by herself and he requests that in the future she just kind of dish out a little jab if he needs a correction.
Like that’s how he communicates, you know? Um, and so that’s how he wants her to communicate with him. Now, >> yeah, >> she decides in this moment she’s gonna wait to bring up the whole pet name issue.
[clears throat] >> Um, so she knows that he can’t take a whole lot of criticism all at once. So, I think that’s a good call. You know, your audience. I do think this is going to come back to bite her later.
>> Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay. I mean, she could have at least dropped in a little like, you know, something else that bothers me just Okay, so >> absolutely.
>> Daisy instructs Alisia to only focus on making up beds. I mean, we’re right up to a charter starting here. And so, she decides to organize the towel closet.
Sarah, she cleans like me. [laughter] >> Yeah. Now this, now this. So, you saw something shiny. Well, she abandons the project halfway through and just like leaves a total disaster in a guest area.
Yep.
>> Okay. So, we learned that Jiao owned a house in Palma with his ex. And we saw this in the previews for this season. I like when Daisy says, “Yeah, I love a [laughter] At least she knows herself.” >> Yeah.
>> And you texted me about the heart eyes that had for Daisy. He totally has heart eyes for her that entire scene, especially when she’s talking about like wanting a family and >> yeah, >> like just he’s just like >> yeah, >> it was cute. I really do want like a happier ever after for Daisy, whether that involves a man or not. Like if she wants to have a family, I want her to have a family and >> I just want her to be happy. I just I love her.
Okay, so the guest arrival, that lady in the white dress, could that hat be any bigger, [laughter] >> but it was fabulous.
>> It was fabulous. I think Yeah, I love a big hat. Okay. Um, the panty liner.
>> Who does that in any capacity? Like, who does that?
>> Who did that?
Um, I I mean, I don’t know.
Do you think it was the previous guest and that did it like as a joke?
>> I don’t know. I just I’m conf I’m concerned.
>> Yeah, I’m confused. Um Okay. Um have you heard of a paper airplane?
>> The origami airplane that you made as a kid out of paper? Yes, I have. The drink? That’s a new one. But I did the research, Sarah. I almost made it. I if if we had the be the stuff at home, I would have made it.
>> Okay.
>> According to liquor.com, the ingredients for a paper airplane drink, 3/4 ouncez bourbon, 3/4 ouncez apperol, >> e, >> 3/4 ouncez amaro nino, [laughter] >> quintensia, >> and then 3/4 ounce of lemon juice, freshly squeezed. That is a tart, bitter drink. Yeah, that sounds gross.
But you combine all of those. Shake, strain, serve. No garnish. Unless um you have a baby paper airplane attached to a baby clothes pin, then you can attach it on the side. That’s what they did in the video on.com.
>> That’s funny.
>> Otherwise, just drink it.
>> That’s a lot of booze. Like that’s Yeah, that is. It sounds terrible. Okay. Well, it’s water sports time. They’re loving the slide. Did Did you see that one guy slip and fall?
>> I was wondering, you know, cuz they’ll they’ll put like dish soap or whatever on the slide to make it slippery. I wonder if they he accidentally got some on the steps or something.
>> Oh, for sure. I think this group has had the most fun with the slides this season so far.
>> And then I was also thinking because they had really great drone shots >> during this episode.
>> Oh, yeah.
They were hovering above the like the dock like the inflatable dock that they have out there and then there’s like the swimming pool area that’s like that you make and I’m sure there’s nets and stuff there. I would swim in that. I would do that.
>> Yeah, I think you could handle that.
>> Control what gets in and out.
>> So the primary’s friend Christina, she’s twerking and Eddie asks if she needs a hand and she says no. Like she doesn’t she doesn’t want any of that. And then she plows head first into the boat. This was bad.
>> So, >> and then she really didn’t want help.
>> Yeah. Captain Jason brings her some ice and she says she’s not drunk. And her friend says she falls a lot. Like she’s just clumsy, >> but only when she’s drinking. [laughter] I’m not drunk.
>> She’s definitely going to feel that later. Ouch. So bad.
>> I watched it a couple times. It was kind of shocking. [laughter] Okay, it’s Pride night now. How is Alicia suddenly so great at decorating?
Apparently, she loves this theme, so she has to like love a theme to do a good job.
>> Well, that’s a good call. She is. I mean, and she’s excited about it. She loves pride, though. And pride is very easy to decorate for.
>> Yeah.
>> Lots of colors, lots of everything.
something different like the tablescape from the last tarter which may have had too wide of creative parameters may have been like too much for her. Like she may have gotten overwhelmed with it. So I’m thinking >> like I’d be cool with decorating for Pride. That’s easy. Like >> yeah, rainbows, rainbows, >> rainbows everywhere. So maybe that’s where where she was like I could do this >> apparently. Okay. Well, dinner goes well and Ellie continues to be annoyed by the pet names and the guests are happy.
>> Moving on. The next day, Alicia’s helping with dishes and she really seems to have a new spark this charter. Like, she’s she’s feeling good. Um, what did you make of Mike asking Ben for an omelette? I’m not not going to lie, I was a bit shocked. I don’t think we’ve ever seen the crew eating a hot breakfast that was prepared for them.
>> No. and ball on charter. They’re usually eating like cereal or oatmeal or something.
>> Whatever they can scavenge.
>> I do think though Mike forgets that he’s working and he’s not on holiday himself.
>> Yeah, totally.
It’s that’s interesting you say that because when we talk about I think it’s the after show. Um, Captain Dreamingboat has a good point about this.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. So, Alicia, Ben, and Daisy tell him like, “Don’t do that, you idiot.” >> Okay. That was such a goofball.
>> So, I would not have anticipated the conflict between Alisia and Mike this season, but they really butttheads.
Like, seriously.
>> Yeah. And I don’t think he likes being told what to do by Alicia. And he sees her as a lower level coworker, like an entrylevel coworker maybe.
>> I also think he does I know he doesn’t respect her ever since the whole Eddie versus the boyfriend thing. Yeah.
>> And I’m thinking there’s a reason this bothers Mike so much that he probably has experience with this.
>> Mhm.
>> Being on the other side of it.
>> Yeah. I think >> so. I think that’s what bothers him.
>> Ben is picking up a weird vibe from Ellie in the galley. Um where she’s kind of like bossing him around.
>> Here we go. Yeah.
>> Here we go. The buildup.
>> The build up to this was great.
>> Yeah, it was. Yeah. I mean, they did a they did a great job. Okay, so during dinner prep, she loses it. She cannot take it with the pet names anymore.
>> Sarah, she should have gone into the walk-in every They always It always helps >> and just screamed and like just let herself cool down. It helps with cooling down tempers and bodies.
>> Just Yeah. Uh well, she doesn’t like how he spoke to her and I didn’t think it was that bad what he said. I mean, it was a little pokey, but um >> yeah, >> the whole thing seemed like very performative to me in the moment.
>> 100%.
>> I’m wondering how many times she practiced this in the shower or while putting on makeup or doing your hair.
And I mean, I agree with the pet names.
It’s a lot, especially when you’re hearing it over and over. But, you know, a quick like, “Hey, Ben, >> can you please stop calling me d whatever? Maybe just Ellie or Elena or hey you just not the others. It’s gross.
I think that would have landed a lot better.
>> Yeah. And a lot sooner would have been so much better. And right before dinner that’s the worst part of all of this.
Like >> so she goes to talk to Captain and in the preview it looks like she could get fired for this behavior. Like it looks it looks not good. Good.
>> No, cuz she let it sit there and fester all day >> instead of bringing it out when she should have. But oh well, let’s see what happens.
>> Let’s see. Well, let’s take a break and we’ll come back with hot tub Convo.
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It’s time for hot tub convo where we discuss what’s happening with our favorite below deck cast members.
All right, so filming of Below Deck OG has reportedly wrapped in Thailand.
Judging from social media posts, it looks like Captain Carrie and Fraser were there and maybe Rainbow. Uh we think you’ll be seeing some repeat charter guests as well. Oh gosh, Kelly with a Y.
>> I doubt it.
>> No, certainly not. No, I wasn’t going to say who it was, but a friend of ours, I believe, I think, will will be there.
>> Okay, >> so speaking of, did you see the pics of Fraser and Matt Rogers like enjoying a resort afterwards? And I could just watch their travel stories forever. It’s kind of like watching Brad Goresky and Gary Janetti. Like, I’ll listen to them talk about nothing over coffee in a beautiful location all day long.
>> Yes.
>> I love I love seeing them together. Oh gosh, they’re both so beautiful and so sweet and just >> just makes me so happy that they’re happy and >> I love that Matt met him there and Oh yeah, just >> love love. I just love love. I love it.
>> Eddie was on Watch What Happens Live this week uh this past week with actress Ardan Marin. Uh they were both all over the place which I love that. Um, they were actually perfectly paired together and Ardan had some fun takes about Below Deck and Summerhouse >> and in a Watch What Happens Live verse, both of them understood how to play tic-tac-toe. That’s amazing. [laughter] Andy’s always like, “Okay, the name of the game is tic-tac-toe. We’re trying to get three in a row.” [laughter] Um, and watch what happens live or I’m sorry, watch what happens five. Andy counted down the top five chef breakouts on Below Deck. Number five was Chef Leon blowing up at Kate.
>> I wonder if I meant to tape freakouts.
>> Maybe >> freakouts. We’ll do that.
>> I’m not sure what a breakout is.
>> Breakout breakout session. [laughter] >> That’s next week. Um >> yeah.
>> Okay. So number five was Chef Leon blowing up a cape.
>> Number four is Chef Rachel saying eat my cutor in a private sheet meeting. Yeah, [laughter] chef. Number three is a compilation of Chef Ryan acting like an ars, which >> not too hard. Uh, number two, Chef Tom freaking out on Asia about having to chop up a cucumber.
>> And then number one, please, Ben throwing everything in the galley.
>> Yeah, I I think I’ll have to put together a little reel of this. I thought this was a fun compilation.
And also, I I wrote down what episode it was. Of course, I don’t have it top of mind, but I wrote down what episode it was because we’re going to have Chef Stew back on the podcast at some point, which we need to talk about when that’s going to be. And I wanted him to go back and watch an episode, like a classic Ben episode from OG.
>> And I think maybe this one. [laughter] So >> yeah, >> before we talk >> though, Tom freaking out on Asa about the cucumber was like >> awful.
>> The worst.
>> Yeah, that was >> I hope his pillow is hot on both sides all the time.
>> Exactly. [laughter] >> Okay, so the below duck down under after show from last week. This was the after show for episode seven. Um Kate and Ben thought he was justified in making Ellie clean solo and they were like rank has its benefits. You know, >> I I disagree.
>> Okay, >> so Jason and Alisia or Jason said Alicia is not the crew member he remembers from last season. So that’s kind of interesting.
>> Um >> very >> and I guess this was in the regular episode, but they showed the clip of him saying stop leaving things around like a little rat when he’s referring to her like forgetting the helmet or like leaving the helmet laying around.
>> So I kind of love that quote. Uh, Elisia, second season.
>> That’s what it that’s what we get.
>> Second season curse.
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>> So excited for these. I loved all the little updates she sent us this past week.
>> So exciting.
>> They’re so cute. They’re so cute >> and they’re so great. Like she does does such a great job.
>> Yeah, really good. It looks just like our logo. And yeah, there’s the one that says I’m the primary with the yacht. I’m like so excited. So, I can’t wait to share those with everybody. And you know, I mean, if they sell out really quickly, we’ll have to get another batch made. So, >> we’ll just have to keep her busy.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Captain Glenn was on Daisy and Mark’s podcast, Yacht Mess, uh, last week, week before. So, here are the highlights. Um, it was a very candid conversation, as you can imagine, things are with Glenn. Um, >> it was about, you know, Daisy moving to Down Under. They talked about how sailing yacht began like from the very beginning which I had never heard that story. That was really interesting. And he talked about the overhaul they really had after season 1 because Glenn was the only one that came back you know for all the seasons. You know they had a totally different cast starting in season two.
But I’ll put a link in the show notes.
It’s a really it’s a good listen and it’ll make you miss Glenn.
>> I always miss Glenn. Head babies though.
He he said he’d come back in a second like and >> of course he would. He’s good people.
>> He said if he needed to fill in for somebody else or if one of the other captains, you know, it’s he doesn’t just work on sailing yachts. He has the license to work on any of these big mega yachts. So >> Wow.
>> Yeah, that’s cool. He’s open.
>> So Sarah, we have a conspiracy theory from a listener.
>> Oh, should we put our hats on?
>> Oh, yeah. Good call. Well done.
Feel like mine looks like a like Johnny Rocket’s like hat or something or like a Waffle House guy hat.
>> It totally does.
>> Wait, I need my >> I’ll give you some pipe cleaners when you come. Uh oh.
>> Uhoh.
>> Oh god. Hold on. Hold on.
>> Did you just break your antenna?
>> I’m trying to get them going like different directions.
Okay.
>> All right. Conspiracy time.
>> For those of you who are just listening on the podcast, please go to the YouTube channel and watch this part. Okay.
[laughter] >> Yes. All right. So, here we go. Tinfoil hats on.
Vegan Bunny Mama writes, “Did you notice on Blow Deck Down Under when Alicia left the mess during her night shift and went into the girl’s bathroom, a man’s arm reached out from her from with for her from within? Obviously, it must have been Eddie. So, we did a a real on this, right? We did a post on Instagram about this >> full video analysis, >> investigations, analysis. We had like, you know, zoom in, zoom outs. Um, and we have come >> when you watched it the first time, you like me and weren’t you like, “Oh my gosh.” Like I I thought she was exactly right.
>> Yeah.
>> I was like, “What did we miss?” >> Yeah.
>> But upon further investigation, it is just Alysia kind of doing a little bit of a dance maneuver to come in the door stuff in her hand and she probably set it on the counter and then she >> and turned.
>> Yeah. And also because you’re going into your room and it has to be dark because people are sleeping, you need to like go and the light switch is on the outside of the bathroom. So it’s like you kind of have to shut the door and then quickly flick on the light, you know, >> so you don’t disturb your roommates.
>> Stop laughing at your >> I have more of these pipe cleaners. So when you >> Oh, buddy. Some [laughter] >> Okay. So that’s conspiracy quarter.
>> Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. Hat’s coming off. Okay. So, Coleta has a question for us.
>> Okay.
>> He writes, “Hey guys, there’s something my boyfriend and I discuss all the time, but this season with Shiao feeling so uncomfortable doing a lap dance and then still being made to do it. I felt it was time to ask you guys your opinion on this subject.” So, female guests wanting to be served by guys in speedos or requests of lap dances, just plain objectifying the guys is okay. But if it was a group of guys requesting that Daisy serve them in a bikini or they want Alicia to come do like a sexy dance for them, etc., that wouldn’t be acceptable. So, we can’t be the only ones who think that this is an unfail unfair double standard.
This is a good point. Do you have a a thought on this, Kelly?
Um, look, I [laughter] you’re asking two kind of like middle-aged boy crazy. No, I’m just kidding. I’m kidding.
[laughter] >> No, it’s an absolutely valid point. And I think if they don’t want if the guys don’t want to do it, they shouldn’t have to do it, right?
>> I think in the past we’ve seen where the guys kind of get a kick out of dressing up and like being goofy and [clears throat] >> showing their goods, if you will. Yeah.
>> Um, but I don’t think like I don’t think should have been made to do what made he shouldn’t.
>> None of them should have to do anything they don’t want to do.
>> Right. Exactly. Um, I think the the difference is in that women historically have been objectified by men >> and not the other way around.
>> Right.
>> And I think that’s the main difference. But >> yeah, >> but it is it’s a good point. It’s a good point. So, >> I guess I’ve never because I’m the first one to be like women’s rights like all day long, but at the same time, I’m enjoying watching the guys [laughter] >> right >> do their thing and that’s horrible. I just realized how bad that sounds. But >> yeah, no, but thank you for making us think about this.
>> For sure.
>> Yes.
>> It’s time for our segment. Join me in the wheelhouse where we decide who needs to see Captain Dreamboat for a stern talking to Sarah. Who you called to the wheelhouse and why? Okay, so I’m going to bring Ellie for not bringing up the whole pet name thing earlier and like between charters. And then I’m also going to call Mike for asking for an omelette from Ben.
>> Good call. Let’s go, boys >> and girls.
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